PC World: “It’s Official: Apple is the New Microsoft”
Posted: 07 September 2007 04:27 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Man makes a point but its hardly a ground breaking revelation.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136949-c,companynews/article.html

Apple needs to get a little more evil sounding, like Applesoft or Applesauce so they can name stuff, AS Safari.

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Posted: 08 September 2007 06:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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The guy certainly has some points. Apple forces its user into using a lot of their stuff and have been for ages… and the iPod is like the holy talisman of this behaviour. Sure you can install Linux on them and I guess that would unlock them to other players, but also lock them out from the iTMS, unless you buy the song end export them to a different format… something I’m still not sure if you can do to purchased TV shows and movies or not… since we dont have that content in Sweden.

But it’s not EXACTLY as bad as he puts it… because the option is there…. it just kind of sucks… just like Linux instead of Windows also used to suck before Linux finally grew up into being (mostly) useable by normal users, not only the hardcore audience that WANTED to compile the source code themselves.

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Posted: 08 September 2007 09:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Whaleman - 08 September 2007 01:42 PM

just like Linux instead of Windows also used to suck before Linux finally grew up into being (mostly) useable by normal users, not only the hardcore audience that WANTED to compile the source code themselves.

When did this happen?

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Posted: 08 September 2007 11:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Whaleman - 08 September 2007 01:42 PM

just like Linux instead of Windows also used to suck before Linux finally grew up into being (mostly) useable by normal users, not only the hardcore audience that WANTED to compile the source code themselves.

When did this happen?


I haven’t tried it myself, but appearently there are some distribution that actually works *gasp* Untubo (sp?) among them.

 

A different problem is that, this happens everywhere withut anybody noticing… or rather even reflecting over it. It’s just because it’s on a computer people start whining… I mean how would it look if everybody went around and whined on the consoles?

“ZOMG NINTENDO HAVE HANDHELD WORLD DOMINATION I CAN’T PLAY THE NINTENDO GAMES ON MY PSP FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!”

“Why can’t I download Marathon 2 for my PS3 when people can on their Xboxes!??!?”

“Wy can’t I transfer the games I bought and downloaded on my Wii to the 360!??! I’M FOREVER FORCED TO PLAY ON THE WII!!!”

...and so on…

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Posted: 08 September 2007 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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None of his files—now totaling 300 songs and 50 movies—will play on the new player. He bought and paid for all this content, but it only works with iPods and iTunes. Apple has an iPod customer for life. Microsoft never had this kind of monopoly power.

I disagree with his point there. Before the days of MacTel and virtualization software like Parallels, anyone who wanted to switch from Windows to Mac would arguably have to give up all their software for Windows, and buy Mac-native versions or similar substitutes. If you owned alot of Windows-only software, it tends to be a bit pricey even after the high premium of buying a Mac.

Windows still has a monopoly there in the computing market. Alot of the consumer software sold at places like Wal-Mart, or even games sold at outlets like GameStop, is still Windows-only unless it’s sold as a hybrid. The last time I ever found a Mac-only piece of software at big box store was years ago. For anything else, I have to go online and buy it.

PC software is still one of the many reasons why people don’t switch to a Mac. The average person wants to walk into a store and take it home with them the same day. Now granted, alot of that PC software might be complete shit, so as Mac users we usually get decent and clean programs, but not everyone who gets a Mac cares or even knows.

Like I said, in recent years with software like Parallels, it’s become easier to transition, but the fact remains, Parallels is still a wrapper for Windows. And as long as you still need Windows to run software that is only made for it, then Microsoft will maintain it’s monopoly there, Linux or not. Most times, open source software can be klunky, backward, or hard to use, and far from an alternative to a proprietary program that gets the job done.

Apple can’t compete with Microsoft there. They tried for years with no success. But they have been making the right decisions lately to bring more interest back to the Mac by switching to a new OS foundation, giving away the development tools, switching to the same processor architecture, creating a better experience…. They’re encouraging native Mac development as much as possible (aside from opening up OS X to run on any hardware), but it’s up to who develops what for the Mac. We’ve always said, the Mac needs more serious, killer apps that are Mac-only. Apple makes a few of their own, like Final Cut, etc., but it’s going to take others. (And maybe slightly more cheaper hardware for budget consumers, I want to see Macs back in places like Circuit City). Oh and Santa, Raws wants new video cards too.  raspberry

The guy who wrote the article makes some OK points, but notice how iTunes is for Windows too? iTunes would have never succeeded if they didn’t port it to Windows. So Apple is still promoting development for Windows by positioning itself as one of the largest developers for Windows. Apple’s success is piggy-backing off of Microsoft’s dominance in consumer operating systems. Devices like the iPod are not independent. They still require the use of a computer to sync with. And most computers run what? Windows!

Apple just found a different way to make money. They took a different path rather than software and computer sales alone. And they did so at the right time as the Internet has become the medium of distribution and digital downloads the format for consumption of media. Consumer devices are all the craze, and Apple does it well for sure.

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Posted: 08 September 2007 08:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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If you don’t like it you should’ve bought a Zune. Noone forced this asshat to buy an iPod or use iTMS. When you buy something you gotta be aware of the product’s limitations. That’s why you don’t eat soup with forks.

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Posted: 08 September 2007 09:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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CCP - 09 September 2007 03:34 AM

That’s why you don’t eat soup with forks.

Unless you’re eating noodles

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Posted: 08 September 2007 10:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Oh, forgot to add one thing to my previous post…

Microsoft has been branching out to more markets as of late too. Microsoft, like Apple, wants to be apart of everything you do in your digital lifestyle. And Microsoft has been gung-ho to crush the competition in the video game market. Let’s push the Wii aside for a moment, since the Wii has been placed in a league of its own with a drastically reduced price point compared to XBox 360 and PS3. I think it’s safe to say Microsoft is doing better than Sony with it’s Xbox 360 and Live service in the U.S. and Europe than Sony and its PS3. Probably more so worldwide even, with the exception of Japan. So I’m willing to believe Microsoft is having better success with its XBox 360 than its original XBox. Live carries more variety like a marketplace, movies, shows, demos, and it’s a extension to Windows via Media Center. So again, we have Microsoft still catering to Windows users only with Media Center.

Even though Nintendo continues to dominate overall in handhelds and now Wii sales, it’s obvious to note they have been in the business for a long time and carry a solid fan-base similar to the likes of Apple. I don’t see Nintendo trying to compete directly with Microsoft. Nintendo changed its tune, took a different path just as Apple did. The Wii is oft referred to as a complement to having an XBox 360 or PS3 because it has an appeal to a broader audience. I see the Wii as a “social” system because its more fun to play with a group of people.

So anyways, the author of the article is just filling his quota and it means nothing more than getting attention and clicks. Jebus, if I could get paid to write that shit too I’d work for the tabloids.

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Posted: 09 September 2007 09:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Jim, King of Awesome - 09 September 2007 12:21 AM

Oh and Santa, Raws wants new video cards too.  raspberry

YEEEEEAAAAHHH!

I’m waiting for a) the Paris expo on September 25, and if nothing is released then, b) November 11, when Intel releases its new Penryn processors. Perhaps I’ll wait until November anyway, just so I can get my fanboi mitts on the newest shiznit.

P.S. JEP, STOP MAKING WORTHLESS POSTS. Two joke posts in the middle of a good conversation is one too many. Furthermore, Mav’s was actually creative. Think contextually. You eat soup with knives.

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Posted: 09 September 2007 10:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Ross are they going to put these new processors in their whole lineup or are some going to continue to use Core 2 Duo’s?

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Posted: 09 September 2007 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I didn’t understand the guy’s hate for iTunes for managing the iPod. Winders iTunes its always worked fine for me, although I can’t say I use it a lot. I can’t really name a better MP3 player. WinAmp offers better post processing plugins I suppose and probably a percent or so less CPU usage and less ram usage because its a much lighter program. Even me, who was a diehard Audion user switched to iTunes without an iPod simply because it was a better player after about version 2 or 3. Of course eventually Audion died but still… it was still active when I jumped Audion 3 for iTunes.

I understand he’d like flexibility of management software as an option (I always welcome choice and competition) but prior to iPod via iTunes but at the time hardware MP3 player management was unintuitive.

Are there better software MP3 players than iTunes?

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Posted: 09 September 2007 07:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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StingRhea - 09 September 2007 05:56 PM

Ross are they going to put these new processors in their whole lineup or are some going to continue to use Core 2 Duo’s?

Well, we obviously won’t find out until Apple releases new Mac Pros, but I wouldn’t put it past Apple to stick with 5300-series Clovertowns in the lower-end models and go with whatever new series (Penryn or Tigerton) they’ll put in the higher-end ones. Of course, here’s to hoping they’ll revamp the entire lineup (INCLUDING VIDEO CARDS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THAT IS HOLY).

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Posted: 10 September 2007 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Yeah, inevitably the Mac Pros will get a bus update to 1600 MHz over the 1333 MHz sooner or later for the Penryns. As I recall its like at 2.8 and 3.0 GHz for the Penryns. I have this sinking suspicion that Apple will move the bottom Macs to Clovertowns but only ship them with a single CPU. Hopefully they’ll use a two socket board, making for a snazzy upgrade in the future. Simply buy another CPU and double your cores.

Notably, the Penryns use a very large 12 meg L2 cache to counter the memory bank architecture that AMD uses. Really right now its all about freeing up bandwidth for more cores.
http://news.com.com/8301-13579_3-9760223-37.html

Honestly none of the upgrades besides a new graphics card are really going to completely change the Mac Pro lineup as there’s less speculation to be done with Intel but I suppose I haven’t read any speculative performance figs. As a betting man, I’d say in about two months we’ll see an update to the Mac Pros. However Apple may do the stupid “SAVE IT FOR MACWORLD”. Ugh. Just release the computer updates as they’re ready.

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Posted: 10 September 2007 04:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Greg G - 10 September 2007 02:13 PM

However Apple may do the stupid “SAVE IT FOR MACWORLD”. Ugh. Just release the computer updates as they’re ready.

I bet they would only do that if they were going to do a complete redesign of the Mac Pro’s exterior, which would naturally equal more PR bang. Uh, here’s to hoping they don’t do that.

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