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EA FINNALY announces a European Release date for Rock Band… and commences butt-rape on top of that.
Posted: 08 April 2008 06:34 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I’ve been waiting for Rock Band for a very long time now… and I’ll get to wait a wee bit longer too. May 23 is now the official release date for the Xbox 360 version, with other versions coming later (according to a number of European sites, MS paid a 7-digit number to have it exclusive for a while…). We even get a few exclusive tracks as remedy for our wait, including Muse’s Hysteria.

The downside? [URL=http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=130927]€240 if you want the instruments and the game.[/URL] Now this is completely insane. Even if you disregard the weak dollar ($375, just for kicks)and use all other games as a comparison, this would be equivalent of charging $240 for the game in the US… 41% over its current price point.

I wonder if this is MS’s way to get those money back before the PS3 version launches… if there truly was such a deal.

With the wedding coming may 24, and honeymoon to follow.. I won’t be back to play rock band until it’s prime season summer here and I’ll most probably be away from my consoles… so I think I’ll wait for the PS3 release to see if prices drop then. No matter how hard I want Hysteria, I’m not ready to bend over for it just yet.

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Posted: 08 April 2008 07:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I think I’ll stick to the Guitar Hero guitars for a long time if those prices don’t drop quickly… WTF?

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Posted: 08 April 2008 11:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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That’s absurd…why would you pay more for a game than the actual console?

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Posted: 08 April 2008 01:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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It gets better yet: It has now surfaced that it’s only scheduled for release in UK, France and Germany the 23rd… the rest of Europe is left in the dark for now.

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Posted: 08 April 2008 03:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Posted: 09 April 2008 12:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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It’s been my experience having played Rock Band several times on a friend’s console for hours at a time, that regardless of how much you like to listen to a song, that it’s not always a joy to actually play/sing it. Such is the case with Metallica songs, a few I like but are ridiculous enough to make your fingers hurt worse than flinging a Wii remote around for an hour. The Hysteria song you speak of (creepy stalker video BTW) reminds me of alternative punk music, I guess.

Now purely my opinion here, but the punk/alternative music in Rock Band is notoriously bad to attempt to play at all because it’s all over the place. Can’t understand it, can’t sing it, can’t play it. Tried several and just gave up on some songs in that genre. Of course, this is probably just me as it comes down to taste and simply what works and what doesn’t for whatever instrument you use in Rock Band. I prefer the old classic rock melodies I grew up listening to from the Stones, The Who, CCR, and several others from the 60s-80s, added with a few from the 90s and today.

I’m still shocked Europe didn’t have Rock Band already, as I thought it was out everywhere sometime ago. I listened to a podcast featuring an American dude living in Japan who from his talking perspective made me think Rock Band was everywhere but Japan. He mentioned they have since completely canned any plans to bring it to Japan at all. So don’t feel too bad. He had to import his drum set and copy to play on his 360. From what I gather you don’t really need all the instruments. Most generic USB microphones seem to work, even the 360 headset mic does. If you got some guitars for Guitar Hero games (like my 360 friend does), they work alright as well. So really just the drums is what differs.

A little reading shows European Rock Band is getting 9 other songs included with its game that will otherwise be DLC for anyone else, hence maybe the price increase for the game itself? Even though it probably deserves more than just 9 to justify the extra expenditure.

But you’re right to be angry at EA, as I’m sure there are just as many angry folks in protest against the upcoming Battlefield: Bad Company game. Having been reported that extra weapons will only be available as DLC for an extra charge unless you purchase the special edition at launch for more. The micro payments thing with consoles for extra content or maps really iterates me. Looking at the PC, that for years has had an open development community who creates free mods, hundreds of free maps, addons, skins, etc. for most games, it just feels like a step backward for the closed console environments in effort to make an extra buck for what is usually so little in return.

In BF2 I still haven’t unlocked all the guns, but that’s part of the challenge… to unlock them, not by paying a little extra to get them. OK, so maybe in some game types like BF2, I’d probably be fine with the option to pay to get the extra content right away, just so long as the it doesn’t interfere with game balancing AND the majority who probably doesn’t want to pay extra (like me) still has the option to obtain it by working for it in the game somehow, completing achievements, other merits, objectives etc.

It’s just going to get worse I fear as every other publisher is closely watching what EA does and how they sinisterly get away with it.

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Posted: 09 April 2008 01:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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A few thoughts:

The only thing I find uneven about rockband is difficulties, granted I only play the drums but there’s a few songs that will appear that are considerably harder than ones that appear after. There’s a few certain songs that I couldn’t pass, couldn’t pass then finally passed and was able to make massive headway without even flinching after beating them.  I’ve been playing through on the career mode on Hard now.

From what I understand having never played the Guitar Hero series, song difficulties aren’t nearly as hard as Guitar Hero 3.

If its at all cheaper for any euros, it might be feasible cheaper to buy RockBand here stateside in Oregon (no sales tax) or at least the rock band drums, and ship overseas. $70 for the drums, which is like £15. Its no problem for me but the shipping is likely absurd. Although £240 = $479.45 as of today. The shipping only has to cost under $379.45 to incur any savings… (man that’s fucked up)

The singing isn’t much different from other karaoke games. Some songs really need to be sung by someone in the vocal range so its kinda silly for the career modes. My roommate can sing absurdly well. He was able to sing on Expert and 5 star songs he knew first play. Any of the Weezer songs, The Killers etc, he aces. He’s taken up playing RockBand singing and playing the guitar both on expert and five starring each part. He seems to think the singing side of the game is just fine and he’d know better than I.

I think the Euro market if they can get the drums for $80 and the game for $60, it’d be still affordable.

Johan seems to think the non-clicking RockBand guitar is better, but I had difficulties with it and then picked up the Guitar Hero guitars. Having never played either, I’m not “used to” anything so I had an objective opinion. I preferred the guitar hero guitars, they’re sturdier, easier to press the buttons, the click actually does serve a purpose, it allows you to register a completely strum. It sounds minutiae but it makes the world of difference. My roommate’s guitar hero buddies dislike the Rockband guitar, as well…

Ranting about game add-ons sucking should be left for threads with sucky add ons. No one is going to give away copyrighted songs for free in a game like Rockband, so the “add-ons” are meaningful and justified. Its an A+ and fair enough priced.

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Posted: 09 April 2008 08:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I hate EA and their families becauese I will have to buy this.

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Posted: 09 April 2008 09:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I was very used to the GH guitar, but have developed a liking for the rockband guitar. I find the slight bulge at the end of the strum bar allows me to grip it, and more reliably hit up/down strokes in time. I prefer the fret action on the GH guitar, and seem to be better at hitting fast series of notes.

Basically, I think they both have strengths and weaknesses.

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Posted: 09 April 2008 11:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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yellow#5 - 10 April 2008 04:42 AM

I was very used to the GH guitar, but have developed a liking for the rockband guitar. I find the slight bulge at the end of the strum bar allows me to grip it, and more reliably hit up/down strokes in time. I prefer the fret action on the GH guitar, and seem to be better at hitting fast series of notes.

Basically, I think they both have strengths and weaknesses.

Nicely put.

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Posted: 10 April 2008 07:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Maybe this is a way for EA to boost the European music market even more. For €240 you can get a somewhat decent instrument (if you’re not picky you can easily get two beginner’s guitars/basses) and start learning on your own. I’ve taken up to learn Hysteria on real guitar instead of waiting for Rock Band now… would have been a tad more fun to do on an electric guitar… but the two acoustic ones we have will have to do. Still beats paying €240 for a game… wink

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Posted: 11 April 2008 12:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Hey and now you can play Guitar Rising when it comes out!

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Posted: 14 April 2008 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Oh the agony!

Somebody showed the drum sticks in my hands and pushed me down the drummer’s seat on a Rock Band demo today… and no matter how much I failed at Iron Maiden’s Run To the Hills, it sold me.

I’m horrible at drums. I have always cramped in front of real drums and have some kind of drumophobia…. and I think Rock Band can help me get past this… plus no matter how much I sucked I was loving it… even if it was a public demo in front of a lot of people and I probably looked the world’s largest fool.

It was almost as fun as sitting down with an [URL=http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page2008.php?data_id=1242&color=CL02&area_id=3&year=2008&cat_id=1&series_id=51]Ibanez RG320[/URL] and a [URL=http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=AX3000G&category_id=6]Korg AX3000G[/URL] in combination at the music store a few hours earlier…

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Posted: 15 April 2008 03:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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[URL=http://kotaku.com/379931/rock-band-europe-to-see-price-retraction-tomorrow]Rumors say EA couldn’t take the heat.[/URL] I guess we’ll see if they’re true tomorrow or soon enough. For €169 I could definitely see myself getting it, since that was the price I had originally expected it at.

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Posted: 15 April 2008 05:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Whaleman - 15 April 2008 10:54 PM

[URL=http://kotaku.com/379931/rock-band-europe-to-see-price-retraction-tomorrow]Rumors say EA couldn’t take the heat.[/URL] I guess we’ll see if they’re true tomorrow or soon enough. For €169 I could definitely see myself getting it, since that was the price I had originally expected it at.

Well they caved under the pressure to the outcry against Battlefield Bad Company charging extra for additional weapons a few days ago. The extra weapons will just be unlockable to anyone, as they should be.

So who knows, with the big stink being made in just about every major gaming news blog/podcast/fanbase, there might be a good chance of a change in pricing. Seems to me EA is just testing the waters lately. But when the shit hits the fan too much and if there’s enough bad press coverage before a product even launches, I’d probably expect a change.

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Posted: 08 June 2008 08:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Greg - 09 April 2008 08:11 AM

$70 for the drums

Cheaper than that now… Amazon has the drums for $48.99 with free shipping. I just snagged a set along with a copy of the PS2 game off of eBay for $25 + $3 s/h.

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